Father & Son Backpacking – Black Mountain July 2013   21 comments

Normal service resumed here at Surfnslide after the family holiday to France – normal service meaning me trying to catch up on trips from a couple of months back – will I ever catch up? Why am I asking you?

Where was I? Ah, trip reports from July. TJF was with the Grandparents in Wales and TBF was performing one of her plays so me and TJS took off for some backpacking. After much pondering of maps and a somewhat uncertain forecast, the Black Mountain and the Limestone area on its southern edge caught my eye. I’ve walked the main ridge a number of times including a great day out with TJS last year but I’d never ventured to the South so this was a great opportunity to see what it was like. The map makes it look interesting

By 10am we were parked up at Dan yr Ogof caves and ready to set off. The cloudy start had been replaced with some fine sunshine and things looked good. Our route would take in the length of the Black Mountain escarpment before heading off over the limestone hills to west to wild camp. We’d then return over the limestone crags above Dan yr Ogof

Black Mountain Part 1

Day 1: 9.8 Miles

Cribarth, Dan yr Ogof

Cribarth from Dan yr Ogof

We headed off to follow the Haffes valley into the hills. I was using a Cicerone guide “Backpackers Britain – Wales” by Graham Uney that i’d seen on Amazon and looked promising for some route and wild camp site ideas. I’m normally a fan of Cicerone guides but let me just say that this one is a massive disappointment. For a start the majority of routes involve overnights at campsites, pubs and guest houses, not exactly backpacking in the proper sense. Only a few have wild camp sites as their overnight. There are a few that use bothies but they are not well researched. A few routes use the Grwyne Fawr bothy in the Black Mountains which is fine but it’s tiny, near the road end and very well-known. on weekends it is very likely to be full and there is very little alternative if you happen not to have a tent. None of this is mentioned in the book which I think is a little remiss.

Reason for mentioning the guide at this point is that is the route is a 2 day route over a total of 37km described as a “short backpacking route” – now I’m reasonably fit but I wouldn’t describe 37km over 2 days with a backpack as “short”. As it turned out even at a relatively brisk pace we had no way to reach the suggested wild camp spot at a reasonable hour and had to cut several miles off the suggested route. The first time we needed to get the guide out was to find our way onto the open hillside. The description “follow the stream for a short way up into Cwm Haffes” neglects to mention that there is no path or even a trace of one. In fact the whole valley floor is completely overgrown and we spent an unhappy half hour scrambling through the undergrowth, clinging to trees and wandering about looking for a way through before we eventually broke through to a point where we could escape upwards. None of this is mentioned either. The book went back in the pack and hasn’t been seen since. Lesson learned stick to my own instincts and the vast array of knowledge and reports on the web. Rant over 🙂

Haffes Valley

D above the Haffes Valley

The Haffes valley is actually rather pleasant once you emerge from its jungle-like confines and after a short and very steep climb up its banks we took a pause to take in the view

Haffes Valley

Haffes Valley

Haffes Valley

Haffes Valley

Haffes Valley

TJS takes a break

We filled up with fresh water at a small side stream (last chance until later in the day) and then headed off across the vast expanse of soggy tussocks to the slopes of Fan Hir

Haffes Valley

Lone tree

TJS has done most of his walking on well-known hills with broad paths. This was the first time I’d taken him “off-piste” and he didn’t seem to appreciate the subtle charms of tussocks and bog without a path (neither do I but that’s not the point). He was mightily relieved when we finally reached the path.

Fan Hir

TJS admires the view after tussock bashing

Fan Gyhirych, Fan Hir

Fan Gyhirych from Fan Hir

It had turned into a very fine day with clear skies and expansive views. Withe renewed enthusiasm we romped along the extremely grand Fan Hir escarpment. I’ve walked the Black Mountain many times but never along this section and its top-notch. It stretches for a good couple of miles with sheer drops to east and wild moors to the west

Fan Hir

D on Fan Hir

Fan Hir

Fan Hir

Fan Hir

Fan Hir

We managed to find a sheltered spot on the summit for lunch. Time to experiment with a new backpacking lunch. Sandwiches that have been squashed into a pack never look very appealing (especially after a few days) so I was going for some Heinz “Squeeze and Stir” soup and some bread. The Herb and Mushroom flavour when squeezed looked suspiciously like – well I’ll leave that to your imagination. And the taste? Well here was lesson 2 for the day – read the instructions. Don’t assume that one sachet will be fine for a very large mug. It looked like dirty dish water and didn’t taste much better. Still, it was hot and filling (and the tomato flavour with the proper amount of water to soup ratio is actually pretty nice) so it was voted a success 🙂

Fan Hir

Lunch on Fan Hir

We pressed on to take in the next set of tops along the escarpment, Fan Brycheiniog and Fan Fawr. This is one of my favourite walks with the deep blue Lyn y Fan Fawr below.

Brecon Beacons

East to the Brecon Beacons

Fan Brycheiniog

Fan Brycheiniog

Fan Brycheiniog, Lyn y Fan Fawr

Fan Brycheiniog & Lyn y Fan Fawr

I was struggling a bit on the steep sections as I was carrying the majority of the weight but TJS was romping along and enjoying every minute. After the early struggles the terrain is very easy-going and perfect for backpacking.

Fan Fawr

TJS on Fan fawr

As we reached the high point of Bannau Sir Gaer, eating up the miles, the weather suddenly turned gloomy and the sunshine disappeared spectacularly quickly. We didn’t linger on the summit and pressed on to leave behind the dark sandstone of the Black Mountain following a succession of very handy sheep tracks across the grassland and bog to the limestone summit of Carreg yr Ogof

Carreg yr Ogof

Carreg yr Ogof

It’s a fine summit, littered with small limestone pavements and outcrops. We took time out for a second lunch but didn’t linger too long as it was pretty gloomy and quite chilly. We pressed on to the summit of Garreg Las with its two massive stone cairns. I assume that these are some sort of ancient burial cairn or shelter such is their size

Garreg Las

A very tired TJS on Garreg Las

TJS suddenly hit “the wall” and his pace dropped markedly. He’s not to used to carrying a heavy sack and he was struggling. This unfortunately coincided with the cloud starting to close in and the summit is not a place to practice navigation amongst its chaotic collection of pavements and rocks. The “guide-book” route urged us to take in Foel Fraith, Garreg Lwyd and Cefn Carn Fadog but it was already 5pm and we were both tired and the mist was upon us. I took a line straight down towards the Afon Twrch through a tangle of boulders and small crags. It would have been an entertaining route had the mist not been following us down. I was keen to try to least see the river to pick out a camp spot so had to encourage TJS to keep going. As we emerged from the mist we could see the river with several green patches on it’s banks that looked promising. We just had to cross the last patch of tussocks to reach the bank. In time honoured Welsh mountain tradition this proved to be a cruel deception. It was in fact a small lake with tussocks floating in it. My trail-shoed feet, dry up to this point were wet within a few strides as were TJS in his boots.

The site was a fine one albeit not the flattest. It was my first test of my new Voyager Superlite tent and I have to say I’m well impressed. It’s rather compact (rucksacks outside) and lacking the cavernous space of my Quasar or Lightwave GT3 but then it weighs less than half of them and it’s quick and easy to put up. I may put a review up at some point if I can be bothered

Afon Twrch

Wild Camp by the Afon Twrch

It drizzled while I pitched it, and that combined with a minor midge invasion forced me to cook tea in the tent. By the time we’d eaten the skies cleared a little and we got some shafts of late evening sunshine.

Afon Twrch

Evening Sunshine

It’s a lovely wild and lonely spot and I only wish we could have seen more of it while we were camped there. Finding your own little private corner of the mountains is the joy of backpacking and I’d looked forward to a late evening exploratory stroll to really get to know the local suburbs

Afon Twrch

Post meal enjoyment

Afon Twrch

Afon Twrch

As quickly as the sun had appeared, it vanished again and the gloom descended. Tired yet satisfied after a long day we turned in.

When we woke the next day, I was hopeful that the skies would have cleared and we’d be treated to breakfast in the sunshine. What we got was breakfast in a steam room. It was mild muggy and we were in the cloud. Every single surface, plant and blade of grass had a pint of water clinging to it. Still breakfast in steam room in the wilds is better than breakfast in…… lets not follow that line of thought. We did enjoy our bacon sandwiches though and by the time we’d eaten and packed up the cloud had lifted a little. Our route back to the car was to take us along the Afon Twrch and then over the limestone hills to Dan yr Ogof and Glyn Tawe

Black Mountain Part 2

Day 2: 5.7 Miles

The going was rough with no path and the grass absolutely soaking. My trail shoes were squelching again within a few hundred yards. Still we had the valley to ourselves and it retained an air of austere wilderness which is surprising when you consider it’s not actually very remote

Afon Twrch

On our way into the gloom

It’s hard to judge an area when your first visit is under a blanket of leaden grey cloud but I saw enough to make we certain I need to come back and see it again.

Afon Twrch

Afon Twrch

Afon Twrch

Wild and untamed

We met the path at the ford which looked like a good place to camp with a few rocks to sit on and slightly flatter. The path east was actually well-defined and easy to follow and takes you across the wild moors to Pwll y Cig. It’s a fascinating area of sink holes, some filled with water and blind valleys. It looked like a great place to camp and explore and I made a note to come back here next year. Despite the gloomy weather I was really enjoying this section of the walk with the terrain providing a lot more interest than anything the map would have you believe

Disgwylfa

Disgwylfa

We had planned to traverse Disgwylfa and Carreg Goch but as they were dipping in and out of the cloud there seemed little point. We were enjoying the ease of following the well made path past the succession of intriguing features. The hills could wait for a better day

Swallow Hole, Pwll y Cig

Swallow Hole, Pwll y Cig

It was a very easy, uneventful and enjoyable stroll back to the car with some decent views across the Tawe valley and over to the interesting little hill of Cribarth as we emerged from the confines of the wild limestone land

Cribarth

Cribarth

Tawe Valley

Tawe Valley

We were back at the car in mid afternoon after an excellent couple of days. More progress in TJS backpacking career with a much longer and tougher outing than his first trip to the Moelwyns last year. He’s still spent all of his wild camping time looking at grey clouds and rain and he asked me if it was always like that. I regaled him with stories of days spent lazing by the tent in warm sunshine and how life doesn’t get much better. Perhaps his next trip would provide some of that 🙂

21 responses to “Father & Son Backpacking – Black Mountain July 2013

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  1. Looks like a great backpacking trip covering quite a bit of ground and you had the place all to yourselves! It’s always great to get out into the wilderness.

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    • Thanks Bob, it was a great weekend despite the weather not holding out. Sometimes just being out in mountains is the most important thing. Quite a tough walk as well especially for TJS as. He’s still only 13 I have to keep reminding myself 🙂

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  2. Looks good. TJS obviously comes from the same school of neat and tidy campsites as his dad 🙂

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    • Nothing wrong with a bit of disorganised campsite chaos, I blame the drizzle and the midges. Always amazes me looking at my wild campsite photos how the hell I get it all in the sack 🙂

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  3. ‘I was struggling a bit on the steep sections as I was carrying the majority of the weight’ – time to go on a diet then Andy 😉

    Its a cracking area that Limestone bit, a few years since my last visit. So many hidden, sheltered wild camping spots.

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    backpackingbongos
    • Cheeky git! – True though 🙂

      I particularly liked the area around Pwll y Cig, a lazy summer afternoon exploring the nooks and crannies and the hills that overlook the area would be mighty fine plan. I did look at your trip report from a couple of years back after I got back, would have been better to look before I set out!

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  4. It’s funny what what you said about the guide book, we just threw one in the bin in France a couple of weeks ago! You set off on what’s supposed to be a pleasant wander with 2 large dogs, you scramble over talus fields and rock-falls which aren’t mentioned, you come across sections with cables that aren’t mentioned……..and eventually you lose the will and turn around, throw the book away and buy a much better one!

    To start with it looked like you were going to have gorgeous weather the whole time, and then the photos suddenly changed! The campsite did look rather nice, though. I hope the occasional bit of food etc not going to plan (we had a big disaster on one trip years ago, with food we hadn’t tried out before but just assumed we’d like!), hasn’t put him off at all. 🙂

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    • It’s amazing that some guides are well written, well researched, detailed and a decent read in their own right, yet some seem to be amatuerish by comparison at best and at worst dangerous.

      Even after 30 years of backpacking I’m still experimenting with food and meals. Half the battle is realising that nice food carries a weight premium and you either bear the weight or face eating something your really wish you didn’t have to – Beanfeast anyone? 🙂

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  5. “Perhaps his next trip would provide some of that”. This is a rhetorical question right – methinks you already know the answer? Stay tuned folks – same time, same channel. (Or should I say ‘some time, same channel’?)
    That looks like a splendiferous trip. It seems that the Black Mountains are a winner every time!
    Was the soup as bad as pasta cake?

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    beatingthebounds
    • Just be patient man, you’ll get your fix of backpacking smugness from me soon enough.
      See above for bad memories of wild camp food but the pasta cake was pretty bad although the occasion was mightily cheered by the sight of you drinking tea from a baby’s mug 🙂

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  6. A mug with a weight in the bottom to make it stay upright. Not of your namby-pamby light-weight malarkey then, I can tell yuh. And it had a nice picture of a bunny on the side.

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    beatingthebounds
    • I’m sure there is some gear freak out there who’d buy it we “tech’d up” the description a bit. High stability, multi generational liquid storage and refreshment system? (You have to use the word “system” for all gear nowadays

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  7. Another great read. Just mentioned taking our lad and she said you better do it soon before its too late (I take that to mean before he’s too old and into girls and stuff) but he’s only 8 and I don’t wanna put him off for life. Wales is still on my to do list, especially after reading these last 3 reports of yours mate 🙂 However, I reckon a short local jaunt is in order next summer for an easy intro to the joys of backpacking and wild camping. Not looking forward to carrying all that extra weight but it’ll be well worth it I hope.
    Beanfeast…ugh! Saw some on the shelf in Morrisons the other day (I regularly take a look at the dried and pre-cooked packet/pot foods for camp edibility just in case there some new wonder food :-/) and it brought back rotten memories of my DofE experiences of backpacking food. Even corned-beef smash beats Beanfeast.

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    • Thanks mate, it’s a tough call how early to take them out, you’re right with the “don’t put them off for life” approach. Plenty of spots in the Lakes for an easy walk in and some in Wales. Look forward to reading the post next year 🙂

      Almost all dried food is nasty in my experience but beanfeast was a rare specimen evil. When I was a kid I remember thinking Vesta Paella was the height of sophistication. If you want decent backing fare, just carry the weight I say

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